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So, I might have gotten a little carried away howling for Faramir the other night, and redpanda mentioned she feels the same about Eomer. .. and you see, I have this friend, nessime...

ladies, I feel your pain.
(I apologize for the quality of the scans, but I am thrilled to be able to do this at all at the moment. I am using a process similar to one Robin once described as being blindfolded and using chopsticks at the salad bar...)






these are for you. )
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I found the picture of Denethor holding the torch while looking for Minas Tirith, and then I had to add Faramir.

Then I couldn't sleep...


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ok, I waited all my life and now I intend to own whatever LoTR merchandise I ache for without regret or apology. I have both the beautiful and the unbearably tacky, caring only that the item moves me... and, I am blessed to be married to the man who says - "Hey! We don't have *this* yet" and not "You bought what??"

And last year Chris actually gave me LoTR Valentines, so the fact that they exist this year does not surprise me.

But who thought putting Denethor on a Valentine was a good idea?

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Jan. 4th, 2004 02:37 am
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Anyone else (waves frantically at Flick) see a hidden context in this shot of Boromir's horn and Andruil?


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I have a good friend I met at Henneth Annun who writes lovely, lyrical stories - mostly about Rohan, which is her particular obsession.

She fell for Eomer about the same time I fell for Faramir -- some time ago (grin). But when she started writing fan fiction, her path to avoiding the mary sue dilemma was to write a new female character - a strong woman of the grasslands - who (eventually) marries a canon, but obscure character - Garulf, who is killed at the Fords of Isen, allowing his horse, Hasufel, to be available to be loaned to some guy named Aragorn.


We have been bemoaning the lack of Eomer's bright-as-the-morning-star presence in the movies together, but she has been especially crushed by Hasufel's good grey self being replaced by the upstart Brego. Today, however, a line was crossed I am not sure she will recover from. I share part of her note with you:

... I had to pause the DVD to attend to a phone call from my boss. Another interruption or two later I resumed play, and as it does after being paused for an extended period, the DVD had to reload, which at times causes it to resume with the subtitles on the screen. It was at the scene of the burning of the Westfold, where Éothain and his little sister are put on the horse by their mother. Now mind you, I have never been able to completely understand what the little girl is saying, only something to the effect that "he is too big (the horse, I assumed).

Well, according to the subtitles, the little girl says, "Papa says Éothain must not ride Gárulf. He is too big for him."


I feel your pain. Honestly. Just ignore the snickering as I picture what this might have meant...

porkchop

Dec. 29th, 2003 04:41 am
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Jim gave me the image-ready tutorial blitz tonight. My first foray into madness --- Look what I made for Chris!

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from Ashinae
    


1. When did you first become a LOTR fan?:
Chapter 10: "What his right name is I've never heard: but he's known round here as Strider."
I believe it was was June of 1963

2. Have you read the books?:
only enough to memorize them

3. Seen the movies?:
only enough to memorize them

4. What is it that you love about LOTR?:
The sense of history, mythology and reality. The characters are real to me. I am an avid - nay, a compulsive reader - but out of all the books I have read, even those I read again and again, this book teaches me something new every single time I read it. Amazing!

5. How many times did you see each of the movies:
In the theatres? FotR: just under three dozen; TT: about a dozen - we had to drive much farther to find a theater still showing it, and it had a much shorter run RotK: four so far.

6. Times you've read the books:
approx every 18 months since 1963

7. Just how obsessed are you with LOTR?:
Just how important is having a soul?

8. Can you speak elvish?
A little. Pigeon-elvish. But, I have had dreams where elvish was spoken, and been able to look it up when I woke.

9. Did you dress up for any of the movie premieres:
No.

10. Most memorable moment as a fan:
When they attached the TT trailer to FOTR - one second I am being *clobbered* by Theoden reciting the Song of Eorl; then suddenly, Faramir turns his head in the woods. Faramir. In the woods. Faramir. No, really... Faramir. I've only waited fourty years to see him. I spoke aloud. In the theater. I *hate* people who do that. I gasped. "Faramir!" I turned to Chris, tears running down my face. "Faramir's Mouth!" I think I may have bitten her then, to shut myself up.

first heart touching moment for me was -- When the firelight shone in Strider's eyes in Bree

11. Favorite of the books:
It's one book!
OK - Book 2: The Ring Goes South

12. Favorite of the movies:
It's one movie, as well!! And it's much too soon to know if Faramir on the Pyre will eclipse the mythic pain of Parth Galen.

13. Favorite overall character:
In case you missed it - Faramir!

14. Character you find most attractive:
Dunedain. (Blood of Numenor - Faramir-Boromir-Aragorn) But Faramir First!

15. Favorite couple:
Tuor and Idril (there are no canon couples worth the name in LoTR)

16. Favorite hobbit:
Merry

17. Favorite elf:
Maglor
(I like Elrond, and I ache for Celeborn at the end)

18. Favorite man:
Faramir. Tuor. Dunedain.

19. Favorite dwarf:
Kili

20. Favorite wizard:
Radagast the Brown

21. Favorite orc:
Shagrat

22. Favorite villian:
Denethor

23. Favorite horse:
Hasufel

24. Favorite scene from the books:
Meeting Eomer. Henneth Annun. Council of Elrond. Parth Galen. Pyre of Denethor.
Go Away, it's one book.

25. Favorite scene from the movies:
The Departure of Boromir. The Song of Eorl. Faramir says - "Then it is Forfeit."

26. Coolest creature:
Huan. Book Gwaihir. Thorondor. The fox.

27. Scariest creature:
Denethor

28. Cutest creature:
ahh, I'll say Pippin. Faramir deserves more dignity than this.

29. Favorite quote:
"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor; and I would have her loved for her memory, her ancientry, her beauty, and her present wisdom."

30. Where would you want to live in Middle Earth?:
Emyn Arnen. The Mouth of Sirion.

31. What kind of creature would you be?
I'd like to try elven....

32. What's your weapon of choice?:
bow

33. Are you good/evil/somewhere in between?:
I prefer real...
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Totally unrelatedto the musings - I am also doing a *smidge* of writing in the Theatrical Muse, but I don't think I am ready to say who. If you are not reading them and want to look for me, drop me a note, neh?

You guys may just want to skip over the free association that is beginning in my brain. Some of it, like this, and last nights Faramir thought, come from the fact that people on my lines are complaining about interpretation without acknowledging that what they are objecting to is that someone else's doesn't match theirs. Now we are starting to get people complaining because fanon is being violated.

Well, when it comes to bizarre interpretations I have some doozys of my own. Most notable I guess is my feeling that Denethor does not love one son better than the other. He does not understand the first thing about love. He uses his approval to manipulate both boys. (I of course think that his rage with Faramir comes from the fact that Faramir does not fall for it). There has been a lot of talk about Gandalf and Denethor on my lines today, and I feel like putting my two cents in -- You may have this for book and movie both -



I get completely frustrated with Gandalf when he stops Faramir while Faramir is doing his utmost to keep his heart in control to tell him the *lie* that his father loves him and will remember before the end.

I know my interpretation of Denethor is *way* to the left of center, but speaking only in canon, whether you believe Denethor is a man who fell to madness, or one who was never kind - the truth is that the Denethor that exists *at that point* is mad as an eel. He will *not* remember that he loves Faramir. He will not remember love. He will throw Faramir on his pyre as grave-goods.

Movie!Denethor brought home an old belief of mine that as he held the shattered horn in his hands he did not grieve for Boromir because he loved him, but because of the completely unthinkable fact that -- Boromir Had Failed Him!
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Jim and I went tonight, alone - date night for two people who have been together twenty six years since their eyes met over a picture of Smaug....

I am limp and teary, and going to babble a little and then probably collapse. Some of this will be most meaningful to those of you who have plowed through my stories (G) and some only to those who know North. Sorry. Need to babble.

I am much more emotionally wrung out tonight. I think it is a combination of Intensity (three showings in three days) No sleep to speak of, and the anticipation of knowing when things are coming.

I am finally through the *overwhelmed* stage and beginning to notice small bits that make the personal myth magic happen for me. I wished for my notebook tonight, but I could not have used it if I had it. Soon there will be growth in some of my arcs, new understanding and the glow that comes into my soul when the myth is recognized and internalized. Mine.

If I could have stopped the film like a dvd, I would have written a terzanelle for the funeral march. It happened when I realized one of the soldiers takes a small bunch of white flowers in his hand from a woman in the crowd..... It's March in Minas Trirth, and Gondor has a plant called Snow-thorn - it is named for Aiglos, the spear of Gil-Galad....

Tonight I sobbed and sobbed through the credits. It was like I was hearing the words to the song for the first time, and well, see above. Some of you know a little about the stories I don't show outside. It was "safe in my arms, you're only sleeping..." I'm crying again; really must need to sleep.

I was clobbered tonight by the Rohirrim being led out under the dark green banner of the running horse - the one that we saw tear free and land in the grass during the first approach to Edoras.

Aragorn has two lines that clobber me particularly hard -

When he tells Elrond -"The Blade that was Broken will go to Minas Tirith."

And when he talks to the king of the dead - That Blade was broken... Aragorn, incandescent, replies "It was remade."


You might as well turn on the sprinklers in the theater when Theoden says "I know your face." And when Sam says "I can carry you."

If Gandalf had said only "The grey curtain of rain parts..." he would have given me my money's worth.

I can not possibly love Faramir's brave heart enough. Must try harder.


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Not too much of this yet, though I have more. Please understand they do not spoil my movie!verse experience - still:

One of those things you wish you hadn't done, because once done, you can't stop - when Frodo is lying bound in the tower, I cannot look away from what appears to be the waistband of his hobbit underwear. Like Chris and the truck with bollocks, my eye refuses to be sidetracked.

I am not one bit sanguine about the way Gandalf pushes people around with his stick. Especially Denethor in front of the Guards. But also Pippin.


I like my vengeful!Denethor better than crazy!Denethor - North can hate him with a burning righteous wrath. I don't know how to feel about John Noble's Denethor yet. He is pitiful but not pitiable. I wonder what was cut- we never saw his beautiful gear from the Weapons book.

I cringe when Gandalf tells Pip that Sauron has not revealed his great weapon yet, and begins the next sentence with - you met him on Weathertop. It is becoming Movie 3's version of my crazy-making "you have only one choice" from movie 1, always used when they had no choice at all.

I find that I am suddenly nervous about what Faramir footage we will get in the extended. As much as I want every single shot, I would be crushed if they, for instance, let her nurse him back to health... this is just free floating anxiety, right? Please?

Cause I know they said Peter had worked out a way to make it seem less - I think the word David used was "pathetic."

And today on Henneth Annun, Someone said they missed the Houses because Faramir needs Eowyn to show him he can be loved.

I *cannot* understand where this idea comes from. Denethor is the only person that *doesn't* love book!verse Faramir. The entire city adores him, and throng the streets crying his name. His need to be acknowledged by his father has never meant to me that he doesn't think he is loved, or worth loving! I don' t find him insecure with others - *I* don't like him ending up with pony-girl, but he does not court Eowyn like a man who expects to be rejected...

Well, if you read my stuff, you know Faramir's strength is the reason why I write. I just don't get it.


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Most surreal memory I will cherish from Trilogy Tuesday - because we were expecting to be 24 hours away from home and up to 16 hours in the theater, we packed real food. In my case, it was protein bars. But I completely dissolved in my chair when Chris pulled out a ziplock bag,leaned over to me and asked cheerily: "Want a porkchop?" (I felt like I was in Bored of the Rings.)
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But as close as I can get... at the moment...

Altariel said: I'd love to see Wenham-and-Otto F&E for more than a quick second.






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I lay in bed wide awake all night, but never managed to sleep. Should have just hung out here. We got perfect perfect seats- middle middle - I am not crippled, I did not actually wear my pajamas, the theater went out of their way to accommodate people needing to eat, etc. and they gave us loot - bookmarks, discount coupons for sideshow-weta (They have no idea how much that means to me!) and lucite frames with little film cells in them. I ate some hot dogs on their rolls - not a terrible carb faux-pas considering what I might have done -and did not have to medicate myself to breathe.

The most harrowing part of our trip didn't happen to us - Chris's friends from work were supposed to go with us -- well, I think Chris will tell the story but basically, I looks like when the wife cleaned for Thanksgiving company, she threw the tickets away. (and really has no idea what she did to the poor guy. She kept saying things like - it's ok, we'll go on Thursday.) check out Jim's journal for the real world end to a perfect day...


OK, here are some very very quick first impressions - we are going at least once more tomorrow, and I should have a better handle on it.
These are non-spoilery, but hey, I write book-verse, so you took your chances when you came in here...

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Empire UK

Dec. 16th, 2003 12:37 am
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I have been a fan of David Wenham's since a friend sent me "The Boys" - and it got me interested in the great quirky films that come out of the area. The American entertainment press never even admits it exists, let alone covers it -- so, I have a subscription to the Australian version of Empire magazine, (even though the shipping is more than the subscription) I complained about them yesterday, for not covering the Aussie/Kiwi actors in their RoTK article. Turns out I should have trusted them, after all. I got this note tonight from Matthew Coyte:

Thanks for your email Tay. We would have liked to have run our interviews with David Wenham (we did the one the UK ran ourselves!) and Karl Urban etc. (hell Orlando and Liv would have been nice as well!), but we were unable to get permission from their publicists to use their photos in time! Aaah, the small-minded gall of LA publicists...

Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation.



Nice that they wrote back, and so quickly. I will cut them a little more slack in the future - they did run two other pics of David in that issue, after all...



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No tarot, no david pics, tonight. I am going to take two nyquil and try to sleep for a few hours, then we are off to Trilogy Tuesday. (That's Today! Agggghhh!) I seldom get sick since I started to low-carb and this is NOT the day I wanted to have the pounding headache from hell that makes me want a quiet room and closed eyes...
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(possible spoiler alert)

I belong to a small group of lunatics who got together, one friend at a time, to from a list which answers a silly question every week. I first got involved through Lee, when he sent me the answers the first time this theme appeared. As with all such things, this list varies in quality, humor and involvement need to get all the in-jokes, but Lee's pic at the bottom prompted me to share.

WHAT WILL BE THE BIGGEST SURPRISE IN THE RETURN OF THE KING?

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